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The Heart of This Too Is Rescue

story + research + advocacy + soul 

If you’re drawn to the raw and real side of animal care, the part that goes beyond saving lives and asks what it means to be human while we do it: this is for you. 

We’ll explore the human-animal bond, the values that drive us, the morality we wrestle with, and the deeper question of what it means to work in animal care and hold onto humanity in the midst of it all. 

Jamie McNally, Ph.D, LPC is a mental health professional, wellness coach, trauma expert, moral injury researcher, military veteran, and active shelter volunteer at a high intake city shelter.
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